My “education”… I grew up in a family with actual rocket scientists in it. Compared to a 60 g/0 g experiment, this experiment (60 g/30 g) has less variation in other food. If you want to eat better and still eat butter, you may need to make some food sacrifices to fit it in. My criticism is of the âdevelopedâ world where people can walk in to a giant grocery store anytime, which sells over 20,000 products, and buy whatever the hell they like. And if that didn’t work would you resort to force to get them to “go vegan”? I personally choose not to consume dairy for companionate reasons. That is a process that WILL occur no matter how that plant material is broken down. And I have a big problem with the tactics of some of the supporters tossing out psych warfare terms like “denier” to try to discredit their opponents. A: Do you deny the importance and role of cholesterol in the body? The good part about Brazil nuts is that they are rich in potassium which improves sleep. And I would have gotten away with it …if it weren’t for you meddling kids!! B: Are you seriously suggesting Alvin that you are the yard-stick we should all base our diets on? No retirement plan there for Mrs Cow, its hamburger time for her. IâM GUESSING YOU HAVENâT DONE MUCH RESEARCH INTO THIS â err, yes I haveâ¦ OBESITY WAS NOT AS PREVALENT UNTIL OUR SOCIETY SWITCHED TO HIGH CARBOHYDRATE AND SUGAR LADDEN DIETS â humans consume more meat and dairy than they ever have. As for the horrors of vegetable abuse and exploitation, this website may just help in understanding the comparison you make with animal cruelty ð vegetable cruelty .com. No more than 2 Brazil nuts per day is recommended. For now, Badger, I don’t expect you to change or entertain a fresh thought or use the gray matter you have left after a long period of drinking nut-“milks”. Do you have “absolutely no need” for cow’s milk? I assume it reflects overall brain function. Being a hater is bad.. You can condemn humanity for eating meat, but you are guilty of the same thing as a meat eater -plant murderer, torcher, ect, ect.. Youâve got me wrong Dairy Guy, I am not a hater of omnivores; I was one myself for many years; most of my family and friends are omnivores too. You should not deny until you try. of butter per week in 1798: (Source). “Truths”? It was nice. The time period and the rate of change in demand are the only variables here. However, in adults, the percentage of calories consumed from total fat appears to have no significant association with cancer risk, and there is currently no clear evidence linking any specific type of fat with cancer incidence.”, On Breast Cancer it says: “In the early 1980s, most nutrition experts believed that dietary fat was a major cause of breast cancer. Sorry, thatâs a very strange and slightly disturbing thing to say”. Yeah, that makes a lot of senseâ¦. Better experimental design. If they do â then we should? By the way, thanks for removing any doubt I may have had about your militancy by thrusting the label “DENIER!” upon me (all caps, too!) Aren’t we supposed to reduce our carbon footprint? So “I can’t believe it’s not butter” goes extinct. Not all foods affect your metablism the same way. I’m guessing you haven’t done much research into this.. Obesity was not as prevalent until our society switched to high carbohydrate and sugar ladden diets. : You wrote: “B: Okay, a CLIMATE DENIER as well. Your weekly milk bill must be way lower than mine. What were these women eating? Just because they took it with them doesnât mean it was good for them. Whether itâs from herbivores, omnivores, ruminants, rodents, primates, BACTERIA, or anything else, those sugars will be broken down and CO2 will be a by-product. The link between fat intake and breast cancer has “faded”? One of the greatest threats to health on long sea voyages was scurvy, a potentially fatal disease caused by a deficiency of vitamin C, normally sourced from fresh fruit and vegetables. B: Now youâre sounding desperate Alvin. If I tried eating what you like or live on and I have a bad reaction or ill-feeling or just dislike the taste should I go on a world-wide campaign to have that food banned? By quoting WHO I am quoting an undeniably reputable source, but the internet is full of credible facts and figures, from reliable sources, about the health risks associated with consuming too much fatty dairyâ¦. Don’t post a blizzard of vegan crap telling me how “unnatural” milk-drinking is because no other animals do it but when it’s pointed out that animals also “naturally” eat poop you play this game of evasion. “He who pays the piper calls the tune.” Are they smart? Credibility is based on and backed up by scientific research and facts, not some mystical mumbo-jumbo which inspires someone to eat just red meat for 40+ days straight claiming itâs a healthy thing to do. The environmental harm caused by animal farming is well documented and scientifically accepted. I read the Harvard diet article you linked. I didnât want to revisit the points of contention I stated âbecause letâs face it, weâve done thatâ (havenât I already said that? It is a zero-sum equation. How much diesel needs to be burned to harvest a row of corn, wheat or soybeans? And when you evade answering direct questions you have no credibility at all. Could I get an answer in English? https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/dietary-fat-and-disease/, A: âHow else are people meant to make an informed choice otherwise, [I agreeâ¦] unless they know the truth [yours? All farmed animals suffer violent deaths. of butter per year was not unreasonable. They would go where then? “One of the top premium butters in America, ” says its website, quoting Food & Wine magazine This experiment used a cheaper less-lauded butter (Land O’Lakes). But you are “natural” like the animals. People are addicted to coffee too – hence the invasive growth of the coffee shops that sell the brown swamp water. I don’t get a paycheck. If you want to significantly cut your individual carbon footprint, ditch animal products. And this time, be very specific not coy and vague. In your own mind, perhaps. Have another read and think about what I said. Likewise, I discovered the effect in Berkeley. Thousands of scientists are frantically working on climate change as we speak, and the data shows animal farming is a very real part of the problem. ”. I collected this data outside of a lab using cheap equipment (a Thinkpad laptop running Windows XP). …or the farmers could just introduce Mr. Bull to Miss Heifer and … well, you know… let NATURE take its’ course. A smart high school student could do what I did. NASA, is doodley. Does everyone here eat that much? What about the other colder, darker months of the year? Cashews. Itâs a natural cycle that keeps the planet breathing. Many people report this same transition effect. Twenty years ago this experiment would have been more difficult. It is a zero-sum equation. In so far as it is the expression of the “National Aeronautics and Space Administration” – they “administer” space. These include: Vast numbers of cows are purposefully breed and kept captive, against their will, on dairy farms. Iâm sure you must have heard of âsupply and demandâ? My breakfast is a warm bowl of milk with a minimum three tablespoons of butter floating and melting into it. (Saul’s methodological advice about these experiments.). Find your local QS Meetup, learn how to start your own QS group, and register for our annual conference. I assume it reflects overall brain function. Check it outâ¦. Well, with no more being bred, even allowing them to stay on their farms (supported by who?) There is now overwhelming evidence that saturated fats like butter are not unhealthy as previously thought. When I resumed 60 g/day, I became faster. Who eat their poop. Consider this Alvin; if a man murdered another man could he argue in court, for a lesser sentence, that he slaughtered his victim in a more âhumaneâ way than another murderer? I have never taken statins and never will. Itâs an interesting tact you take regarding the effects of cholesterol; choosing not to deny that fatty dairy (and red meats), heavy in saturated fats cause increased levels of cholesterol, instead arguing that increased levels of cholesterol are not harmful, despite the mountain of medical research directly linking the consumption of harmful saturated fats from dairy and red meats with an increased risk of heart disease and stroke. Being that there used to be 80 million buffalo roaming the plains of central N. America, i think we are making progress. As for animals mating in the wild as oppose to being forcefully inseminated in captivity, yep, that would seem pretty NATURAL to me. Iâm sure you must have heard of âsupply and demandâ? âLive on bread and wheat” and whole grain we were told. Try to limit your peanut butter intake to one serving per day (two tablespoons), and make sure to count those 190 calories toward your daily caloric quota. To fertilize the soil? That’ll make ya healthy. Speaking about heart disease, the Harvard article recommends “the Mediterranean Diet” because it includes “extra-virgin olive oil or nuts, both rich sources of unsaturated fat” then points out below: “This study highlighted that low-fat diets are continuing to lose credibility, and that incorporating healthy fats â such as those included in the Mediterranean diet â can improve heart health.”. None here. If this is confusing, look at the points with accuracy values in the middle. Yes, perhaps millions of farmers would go bankrupt with some reactions similar to the stock market crash of 1929 but for the purposes of this examination that isn’t a concern for us. After all, that was my actual point. A: âFarmed animals are exploited as a resource and processed accordingly on production lines in factories.â Iâm right there with ya. For a long time I ate 60 g of butter (= 4 tablespoons = half a stick) per day. Australian aboriginals, who also have the lowest blood cholesterol on Earth. they would live out their lives, die off and be gone. “So, sorry to interrupt your mutual appreciation Alvin and DG, but I think it is crucial that truths are heard and a sense of balance maintained in this important debate.”. “Low-fat diets are losing credibility”. What was it you said about not wanting to “revisit the specifics” we’ve been through before? But this scenario ends the same as the other: No more cows alive on farms. That is a major truckload of butter! I couldn’t easily eat more but I could easily eat less. And because of these beliefs, butter consumption in America declined rapidly over the last century as people began to see butter as unhealthy. and they too, like the Spanish have high blood cholesterol, long lives and among the lowest rates of CVD. What I will fight to expose is liars, deniers and those who make false claims to further their own cause; those who distort the truth and say things which are not proven or substantiated. Or is it “all the same” in your judgment? Letâs also not forget that billions of people around the world are in fact lactose intolerant and cannot consume milk into adulthood without feeling ill. In the 1920’s, Americans consumed approximately 72 sticks (18 pounds) of butter per year. Speed of change. Find some good tips for newcomers on our “Get Started” page. Because you trotted out yet again the notion that we shouldn’t drink cow’s milk, I had to ask you yet again to take a position and stick to it: I asked: Do you define the ânaturalnessâ of human activity by what other animals do? I wonderâ¦do you look like the Maasai? With omega-3, the changes were somewhat slower. Instead of being used for veal, male calves are raised to maturity to produce Organic Pastureâs 100% grass-fed ground beef.”. Not that you’ll entertain such inquiry, but here it is for everyone else: http://rps3.com/Pages/Burt_Rutan_on_Climate_Change.htm. To do this they are regularly artificially inseminated (raped) by humans, while pinned in a rack, against their will of course. My innards were happier. At that point, the role of butter stayed fairly steady at ar… But that’s unnatural and won’t work well in the long run for health or the planet. The reason CO2 is constantly increasing for us is because when trees evolved there was nothing that could consume them, there werenât even any bacteria that were adapted to eating the dead trees. As this was addressed before: “McAfee found that 70% of the time cows would leave their young to be eaten by coyotes or be trampled, as their maternal instinct had long been bred out of them after generations of never having to fend for themselves, or their young.”, “Mark prefers to put his calves in group pens, raise them on real milk, and then release them back into the herd once they reach seven to eight months of age. I tried to find the source of this 2003 study to see where it was done and the particular reporting criteria it was based on. A: âVast numbers of cows are purposefully bred and kept captive, against their will, on dairy farms.â Interviewed them all, have you? They don’t. Because of the speed of the butter change, in the future I can do better balanced experiments that change conditions more often. Our forefather knew this; why else would they eat so much butter. But very political, maybe it always has been. They had to eat essentially “every part of the animal” which is what traditional peoples would do. I would suppose in this case that the more humane among the farmers (do we think they exist?…) would continue to milk their cows and/or feed the calves on hand that could use it or pour it out on the ground. Oh, Richard Burton! I’m not convinced that human-activity or cattle ownership is causing the warming – if it is getting warmer. Put butter on toast. You never answered what you would do with the “vast numbers of cows” currently kept for meat and milk. Billions of flies and lots of “higher animals” like rabbits, chimps, gorillas are coprophagic. That plant matter that those burping herbivores are eating would have decayed from some other process that would have produced equal amounts of CO2 and those plants being devoured makes way for new plants to grow which will then again absorb equal amounts of CO2 and give off O2. If I ask you, “Do you deny that too much water is bad?” what would your answer be? I wonder…do you look like the Maasai? All that CO2 that was abosrbed by those trees was never released back out into the atmosphere. Why? That’s depressing. Itâs a natural cycle that keeps the planet breathing. Put butter on pancakes. Butter is not bad for you, itâs actually a superfood. So what is stopping you from eating more butter? I see what people are doing when they use the word âhumaneâ and I donât buy it. How did the Eskimos get their vitamin C. Its true, we’ve all been taught that we need to eat our fruits and vegetables, but obviously Eskimos in the arctic eat very few yet survived for multiple generations without any. That plant matter that those burping herbivores are eating would have decayed from some other process that would have produced equal amounts of CO2 and those plants being devoured makes way for new plants to grow which will then again absorb equal amounts of CO2 and give off O2. Eating poop – sometimes your own – is perfectly “natural”. (I'm supposed to be consuming about 1750 calories per day on this weight-loss diet I'm on.) So, into a calf or on the ground it goes. B: Farmed animals are âpurposefully breedâ (I did say this!) If you live in America then maybe you donât get to hear about the realities of climate change as much the rest of the world does, so maybe I could make some allowance for your ignorance on this critically important and deeply worrying subject.”. Theoretically, adding just one serving per day to your diet without making any other changes could lead to approximately 10 pounds (4.5 kg) of … Probably those voices in your head from all the conditioning and propaganda you learned. In the 1960s my friend and co-author Saul Sternberg, a professor of psychology at the University of Pennsylvania, introduced better-designed reaction-time experiments to study cognition. The change in error rates raised the possibility that the speed changes were due to movement along a speed-accuracy tradeoff function (rather than to genuine improvement, which would correspond to a shift in the function). You’ll never come close to shutting down the abusive industry – because according to you people won’t stand for it. Do you really believe that the worldâs dairy cow population can be fed on grass? And back when people were told to consume 6-11 servings of carbs per day, they were also advised to ingest fat very sparingly. As I said I’m doing fine, very strong, no wobbly teeth, hair not falling out, perfect vision, a shiny coat (haha), excellent stamina (like a Mongol warrior) just couldn’t be healthier – and I haven’t consumed any fruit or vegetables (other than an orange in 2015) or taken any vitamin supplements (or supplements of any kind) in years. I personally think you should make more effort to be civil. As for treatment of animals and for human health I only support farms and dairies that are humane and organic and by defintion raise their stock on grass. You have just determined that people won’t be consuming the meat nor drink the milk before they go. Butter Consumption = 4 oz per week = 208 oz. Nevertheless, here’s my stand: I have no fear of the naturally-occurring levels of cholesterol in me, no matter the type: High Density Lipo-protein….Low Density Lipo-protein… due to my diet of meat and dairy. The outlier in the speed data (one day was unusually fast) means there can be considerable improvement for a reason I don’t understand. âBalanceâ? Im sure there is a biological reason though why cow emmitions exist, we just haven’t discovered it. And if that didnât work would you resort to force to get them to âgo veganâ? Like those scenes in a movie where someone turns into a Werewolf. So, a dairy farmer who makes a living selling the stuff makes wild claims which blatantly encourage eating more butter. They shouldn’t. Our almond butter has 55.8g fat, 5.9g carbs, and 25.1g per 100g. So without wanting to revisit these specifics, because letâs face it, weâve done that, there are a few irrefutable FACTS that remain TRUE and must be part of this debate. “Do you understand that the CO2 that is released from âburping herbivoresâ comes from the process of the sugars in the plant material breaking down? Your word? Good luck Badger. I don’t plan on trying to develop scurvy to find out. A proper portion of organic peanut butter … you would get an intelligent well-studied answer on any subject – like climate change. I’ve lost relatives – watched them suffer and decay without being able to intervene while someone’s making a bundle. Then you’ll calculate how many mgs. Of course we all have a personal carbon footprint to consider, but thatâs not quite the same as industrialised GHG generation, don’t you agree? A: âSo without wanting to revisit these specificsâ¦â. Thatâs funny. Show me some âcredibleâ scientific medical research which says that was a good idea and should be encouraged. Almond butter for muscle building. in their billions, for human exploitation. Life is too short for me to try and educate you on this. You know, my own background is in aerospace: Flying both civilian and military. So in the case of a rapid reduction in demand – such as humanity switching overnight to a vegan diet – the end result will be (X years down the road) the death of all the cows that were on the farms. Because the effect of eliminating 30 g/day of butter was clear, replacement experiments become more interesting — 30 g/day olive oil is more plausible as a sustainable and healthy amount than 60 g/day. For a person eating a 2000 calorie diet, this would be 22 grams of saturated fat or less per day. found in fatty meat, butter, palm and coconut oil, cream, cheese, ghee and lard). On a dairy farm they are killed off after just 4-5 years when they become commercially unviable. For most people, this means sticking to 1–2 tablespoons (16–32 grams) per day. Was the red meat and dairy suggested as being a possible cancer cause here the store-bought, homogenized, conventional corn-fed feedlot stuff or the grass-fed organic kind? Don’t you remember California dairyman Mark McAfee who you called “dumb Mark”? And the reverse is true for those with the lowest? But butter ends up as a food to limit on most healthy diets. “Lactose intolerance”? Now that we are burning them, that is exactly what is happening. For cheese, I eat about 3-4 slices of cheddar cheese per day. I didn’t want to “revisit” this, you did, by regurgitating an old claim about how mankind’s dairying is inherently brutal to calves – as opposed to gentle and merciful Nature. Work out how much of it you can get into your calorie goals and go for it. Then watch your body, metabolism, and health change for the better. Such is the audacity of these demonic deliverers of dairy addiction! Because each family and homestead was a “farm”. And also watch “The Vegetarian Myth” by Lierre Keith. Is this misery really justified when there are plant based alternatives to butter?? Good for you. People did live healthier lives when eating butter and still do today. “Any negative health benefits and the implications of daily milk consumption.”. How much butter is too much butter i just realized that yesterday i went trough a stick of butter (about 1/4 of 1 lb) and this morning as of 11am i already eaten half of another stick of butter and it feels like its gonna become a dailly thing. Farms and herds got proportionately larger and meat, milk and cheese was bought, sold and bartered for as markets were established. I canât believe you are incapable of working this out. I have rescued dogs, cats (and I don’t just mean taken them in for the night, I mean like off of the middle of a busy highway), I have fed and raised baby birds and set them free to fly away when they were ready. Provisions reported on-board the British Sloop ALERT – 1777, a sloop of 60 men for 4 months: (Source). Sure, some berries here and there but those are seasonal. 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